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Steve Ronuken wrote:

TheSmokingHertog wrote:

Steve Ronuken wrote:

Princess Mary-I wrote:

Steve Ronuken wrote:

Skills will not affect ME. Because the moment you have ME being affected, the skill becomes one required at 5. Like Production Efficiency was. CCP have stated in another thread that they do not want skills to be like that.

If I get u right, then CCP don't think there should be a skill required to lvl 5 to reap the "benefits" and to be mandatory to get to lvl 5, and they have stated so in a thread.

That makes no sense to me, reading that, cause was that not the reason behind the refining change? U would need all reprocessing skills to lvl 5 to reap the "benefits", and therefor becomming a mandatory skill, and if I remember right, that was in a dev blog too. Yes yes I know no none refine anymore :D but that is not the point.

So maybe you can help me out here - do they want skills to be mandatory to get to lvl 5 or do they not want skills to mandatory to get to lvl 5?

There's a huge difference.

With refining skills, you make /less/ isk. You can still sell for profit.

With a skill that reduces manufacturing costs, you can easily reach the point where, without it, you cannot make /any/ profit without it at 5.

Can you both elaborate? I can not follow the refining / producing connection to skill lvl, are there not many more factors at work to talk those things?

I have less than Max refining skills: I refine something, and sell it on the market. I make isk.

I have less than max skills in something that reduces manufacturing material costs: I make something. I cannot sell it for profit, because someone who has been around longer, and has it maxed out, has set the market value at just enough for them to make a profit, but where it's below the level I can make it at.

That's what happened with the old Production Efficiency skill. you pretty much had to have it at 5, or you couldn't compete.